Helen A. Cason: Difference between revisions

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	Dennis William Cason	(family)
Helen A. Cason
0	Mary F. Frost

Spouse: Thomas Monroe Harris (family); Abt. 1882 (As judged by the birth of their first child, Clinton, the 1900 census, and the 1880 census records.)

Data

Birth: 10 Jan 1858; Lawrence Co., Arkansas
Death: 28 Sep 1947; Kinta, Haskell Co., Oklahoma
Burial: San Bois Cemetery, Kinta, Haskell County, Oklahoma

Sources

Sans Bois Cemetery - There's a lot of family here.: http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/ok/haskell/cemeteries/sansbois.txt; http://members.tripod.com/~mccurtain_2/onlinecem/sans1.html; Helen's line reads: Harris, Helen ; 10 Jan 1858 - 28 Sep 1947; The cemetery also has many of Helen's relatives and the headstone data fits the Helen that I have found in the 1910 census.

Haskell County Death Records: Death Records on the McCurtain, Haskell County, Oklahoma Genealogical Society's website.; They don't give many details on how or where they found the records, but they're supposed to be "local". The only name I could find that I recognized, was Helen's. Her line from the record read as follows: HARRIS, Helen , F , 28 Sept 1947 , Book 6 , 21; I presume this is the same Helen based on the matching death date. (For this reason I match it with the headstone source.) Helen is listed as Helen F. Harris. (I am therefore made a bit more curious where we get "Permelia Ann" from. It's not in any of my other sources.)

U.S. Census Records

1900 U.S. Census - Morgan and Reeds Creek Townships, Lawrence County, Arkansas, page 22 of 43
Age given as 40. Birth date given as Jan 1860. Number of years married given as 18 years.
Headstone of Thomas Monroe and Helen A. Harris.

1910: Kinta, Haskell County, Oklahoma; Series: T624, Roll: 1254, Page: 3; House No.: 36; Family No.: 39; Appears as head of household with her children Bishop, Clinton, Cicero, Ellen, Edgar, and Talmage, but not William or Katherine. Bishop's age is given as either 14 or 17 (probably 14).

1880: Reeds Creek, Lawrence, Arkansas; Family History Library Film: 1254049, NA Film Number: T9-0049, Page Number: 484B; http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1880US_11641945&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=5; A "Helen A. Cason" is listed here as a 22 year old niece in the LaBass family. (The indexers apparently read the name as "Helen A. Cuson".) Further research has shown that our Helen Cason's mother Mary F. (Frost) Cason was the sister of Volumnia Anne (Frost) LaBass. (Mary F. Cason was apparently also the half-sister of her mother-in-law.)

Here's Mr. LaBass: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/PRF/individual_record.asp?recid=700118222&lds=2&region=-1&regionfriendly=&frompage=99
Volumnia is then a Frost and Helen would have to be related through a sister of Volumnia unless Cuson is Cousin and also not Helen's real last name.
We then have Volumnia's parents as Gabriel Frost and Levisa Tyler.
This Gabriel Frost is given with a wife named Permelia here: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=100399857422&lds=1&region=11&regionfriendly=North+America&frompage=99
Mr. Labass is shown having married a Malinda Harris here: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/IGI/individual_record.asp?recid=100339138462&lds=1&region=11&regionfriendly=North+America&frompage=99
- The marriage date precedes the marriage date for Volumnia, who may then have been a second wife following the death of a first wife. The name Harris is suggestive. Is Helen meet here husband through family. (Is she blood related to her husband?)
- Malinda's death date is given as 15 MAR 1851 whereas Volumnia married Mr. LaBass on 29 Jul 1851. Things add up nicely.
Better summary for Mr. LaBass here: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/PRF/individual_record.asp?recid=820190697
We find that Mahala Frost, daughter of Gabriel Frost, married Seborn Cason here:http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~angelasattic/ALL/pafg590.htm#17740
- No Helen is listed among the children and neither is there a child listed as having been born in 1858. However, Seborn dies in 1862, giving half the explanation as to why a daughter might have been living with cousins.
- Source for provided child list is stated to be 1860 census. There doesn't seem to be a reason why Helen wouldn't be listed if she were born in this family.
Not finding Helen in this family, but suspect relation, I searched Seborn's male siblings for their children, but found nothing (though I couldn't find satisfactory information on all of them). However, I then began a search of Seborn's children's children and found via FamilySearch that Seborn's first son, Dennis William Cason married a Mary or Polly Frost (Frost... !Shock and Horror! :-o). They have one child listed as Helen A. Cason born in 1858. Dennis died before September 1865 and though his wife's death date is not given, this does much to explain what Helen is doing in the home of relatives. The only thing left to do now, I suppose, is to try to catch them all together in the 1860 census in Lawrence Arkansas. Of course, if this doesn't pan out then there's much to do, and it would be nice to find record of Helen's marriage to Thomas Harris and to connect Thomas to the LaBass family through Mr. LaBass's first wife to kind of tie things together. (This family's weirdly intermarried it appears.)
- Wait a second... couldn't I have just searched for Helen Cason in Arkansas born 1858 and found her in this family? Sigh... yes, I could've. Maybe I did and ignored it. The record by itself doesn't have much to recommend itself as accurate. Only with the rest of the picture does the record seem likely to be correct.
Here's a site where someone else found the same thing. They have more detail. I wonder what their source records are: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1980254&id=I0767
Seborn Cason
- http://geocities.com/nlmatthews@sbcglobal.net/mar-A2-gr.htm
- http://members.tripod.com/don.mckinney/hillerycasonjr.html
Dennis Cason
- http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~angelasattic/ALL/pafg571.htm

1870

Family 87, Line 26

Listed in family of mother and step-father, Jonathan J. Wilson.

Helen's family can't seem to be found in 1860 based on various indexed searches of Arkansas and the entire U.S.A. as well a manual run through Reed's Creek and Scott townships in Lawrence County, Arkansas.

Auxiliary Information

Kinta, Haskell County, Oklahoma

@@ Line 1: / Line 1: @@
-{{IndividualAndParents|Individual=[[Permelia Ann Helen Cason]]|Father=Unknown (Born in US)|Mother=Unknown (Born in OK or Arkansas)}}
+{{IndividualAndParents|Individual=[[Helen A. Cason]]|Father=[[Dennis William Cason]]|Mother=[[Mary F. Frost]]|Family=Dennis William and Mary F. Cason|Relevance=0}}
 ;Spouse
-:[[Thomas Monroe Harris]] ''([[Family:Thomas Monroe and Permelia Ann Helen Harris|family]])''
+:[[Thomas Monroe Harris]] ''([[Family:Thomas Monroe and Helen A. Harris|family]])''
-:Bef. 1883 (''as judged by the birth of their first child, Clinton'')
+:Abt. 1882 (''As judged by the birth of their first child, Clinton, the 1900 census, and the 1880 census records.'')
 ==Data==
 ;Birth
 :10 Jan 1858
-:Kinta, Haskell Co., Oklahoma (''Not likely technically correct as Kinta was apparently established around 1900. 1910 Census listed birthplace as Arkansas.'')
+:Lawrence Co., Arkansas
 ;Death
 :28 Sep 1947
 :Kinta, Haskell Co., Oklahoma
+;Burial
+:[[Source:San Bois Cemetery, Kinta, Haskell County, Oklahoma|San Bois Cemetery, Kinta, Haskell County, Oklahoma]]
 ==Sources==
@@ Line 19: / Line 22: @@
 :The cemetery also has many of Helen's relatives and the headstone data fits the Helen that I have found in the 1910 census.
-;U.S. Census, 1910
+;Haskell County Death Records
+:[http://members.tripod.com/~mccurtain_2/records/death1.html Death Records on the McCurtain, Haskell County, Oklahoma Genealogical Society's website.]
+:They don't give many details on how or where they found the records, but they're supposed to be "local". The only name I could find that I recognized, was Helen's. Her line from the record read as follows: HARRIS, Helen , F , 28 Sept 1947 , Book 6 , 21
+:I presume this is the same Helen based on the matching death date. (For this reason I match it with the headstone source.) Helen is listed as Helen F. Harris. (I am therefore made a bit more curious where we get "Permelia Ann" from. It's not in any of my other sources.)
+===U.S. Census Records===
+<gallery>
+File:1900 U.S. Census - Morgan and Reeds Creek Townships, Lawrence County, Arkansas, page 22 of 43.jpg|1900 U.S. Census - Morgan and Reeds Creek Townships, Lawrence County, Arkansas, page 22 of 43<br/>Age given as 40. Birth date given as Jan 1860. Number of years married given as 18 years.
+File:Headstone, Tom and Helen Harris.jpg|Headstone of [[Family:Thomas Monroe and Helen A. Harris|Thomas Monroe and Helen A. Harris]].
+</gallery>
+;1910
 :Kinta, Haskell County, Oklahoma
 :Series: T624, Roll: 1254, Page: 3
 :House No.: 36
 :Family No.: 39
-:Appears as head of household with her children Bishop, Clinton, Cicero, Ellen, Edgar, and Talmage, but not William or Katherine. Bishop's age is given as either 14 or 17 (probably 14), which contradicts what was previously recorded. The information we previously had comes from FamilySearch and matches a headstone in Sans Bois Cemetery. I think the FamilySearch info comes from that headstone and is incorrect. (ie. I think that Bishop Harris is a different Bishop Harris.) This would also affect Bishop's middle initial (came from headstone) and his parents' estimated marriage date (previously based on assumption that Bishop was the first child).
+:Appears as head of household with her children Bishop, Clinton, Cicero, Ellen, Edgar, and Talmage, but not William or Katherine. Bishop's age is given as either 14 or 17 (probably 14).
-;U.S. Census, 1880
+;1880
 :Reeds Creek, Lawrence, Arkansas
 :Family History Library Film: 1254049, NA Film Number: T9-0049, Page Number: 484B
 :http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/census/household_record.asp?HOUSEHOLD_CODE=1880US_11641945&HOUSEHOLD_SUB=1&frompage=5
-: A "Helen A. Cuson" is listed here as a niece in the LaBass family. I searched Lawrence County, and interestingly enough, this Helen was only 1 of 2 in the results. (The other was a Wilbanks. I got no results when searching for Cason. I thought all vowels were equivalent with soundex. Oh well.) The name matched so well that I checked it out and found that the record was in Reeds Creek, the very same town Permelia's husband is from. Is this Helen "Ann" Cason? What about the "F" in the death record below? (Not a huge problem, as initials are frequently messed up when transcribed from old records.) Where does the "Permelia" part come from?
+:A "[[Helen A. Cason]]" is listed here as a 22 year old niece in the LaBass family. (The indexers apparently read the name as "Helen A. Cuson".) Further research has shown that our Helen Cason's mother [[Mary F. Frost|Mary F. (Frost) Cason]] was the sister of [[Volumnia Frost|Volumnia Anne (Frost) LaBass]]. (Mary F. Cason was apparently also the half-sister of her mother-in-law.)
 :* Here's Mr. LaBass: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/PRF/individual_record.asp?recid=700118222&lds=2&region=-1&regionfriendly=&frompage=99
 :* Volumnia is then a Frost and Helen would have to be related through a sister of Volumnia unless Cuson is Cousin and also not Helen's real last name.
@@ Line 43: / Line 58: @@
 :** Source for provided child list is stated to be 1860 census. There doesn't seem to be a reason why Helen wouldn't be listed if she were born in this family.
 :* Not finding Helen in this family, but suspect relation, I searched Seborn's male siblings for their children, but found nothing (though I couldn't find satisfactory information on all of them). However, I then began a search of Seborn's children's children and found [http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/search/IGI/family_group_record.asp?familyid=311103066&indi_id=100306118136&lds=1&region=11&frompage=99 via FamilySearch] that Seborn's first son, Dennis William Cason married a Mary or Polly Frost (Frost... !Shock and Horror! :-o). They have one child listed as Helen A. Cason born in 1858. Dennis died before September 1865 and though his wife's death date is not given, this does much to explain what Helen is doing in the home of relatives. The only thing left to do now, I suppose, is to try to catch them all together in the 1860 census in Lawrence Arkansas. Of course, if this doesn't pan out then there's much to do, and it would be nice to find record of Helen's marriage to Thomas Harris and to connect Thomas to the LaBass family through Mr. LaBass's first wife to kind of tie things together. (This family's weirdly intermarried it appears.)
+:** Wait a second... couldn't I have just searched for Helen Cason in Arkansas born 1858 and found her in this family? Sigh... yes, I could've. Maybe I did and ignored it. The record by itself doesn't have much to recommend itself as accurate. Only with the rest of the picture does the record seem likely to be correct.
+:*Here's a site where someone else found the same thing. They have more detail. I wonder what their source records are: http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:1980254&id=I0767
+:*'''Seborn Cason'''
+:**http://geocities.com/nlmatthews@sbcglobal.net/mar-A2-gr.htm
+:**http://members.tripod.com/don.mckinney/hillerycasonjr.html
+:*'''Dennis Cason'''
+:**http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~angelasattic/ALL/pafg571.htm
-;Haskell County Death Records
+;1870
-:[http://members.tripod.com/~mccurtain_2/records/death1.html Death Records on the McCurtain, Haskell County, Oklahoma Genealogical Society's website.]
+[[File:1870 U.S. Census - Scott Township, Sharp County, Arkansas, page 13 of 17.jpg|thumb|none|1870 U.S. Census - Scott Township, Sharp County, Arkansas, page 13 of 17]]
-:They don't give many details on how or where they found the records, but they're supposed to be "local". The only name I could find that I recognized, was Helen's. Her line from the record read as follows: HARRIS, Helen , F , 28 Sept 1947 , Book 6 , 21
+:Family 87, Line 26
-:I presume this is the same Helen based on the matching death date. (For this reason I match it with the headstone source.) Helen is listed as Helen F. Harris. (I am therefore made a bit more curious where we get "Permelia Ann" from. It's not in any of my other sources.)
+:Listed in family of mother and step-father, [[Jonathan J. Wilson]].
+Helen's family can't seem to be found in 1860 based on various indexed searches of Arkansas and the entire U.S.A. as well a manual run through Reed's Creek and Scott townships in Lawrence County, Arkansas.
 ==Auxiliary Information==
 *[http://www.rootsweb.com/~okhaskel/xtown.htm Kinta, Haskell County, Oklahoma]